Thanks @online@programming.dev

But is it E2EE !?? I see no reference to it.

Thanks for the sharing @skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl

I’ve check VeilidChat for the moment indeed it is just a network framework… so no apps ready yet (unless I’m mistaken )

The negative point is that the developer use exclusively google tech for it !! ( Dart, flutter )
So why peoples that want to fight for freedom use the Sauron tool !? it baffle me…

They did the same with Flash with the help of adobe.

A little update.

I’ve just tested simplex on Android.

it’s very well thought out ! The features make sense. UNFORTUNATELY it’s not P2P ! all the messages pass by their servers :'( with Briar it’s P2P… weirdly they claim their way is better than P2P ! any comment on that ?

In my point of view, if messages are stored somewhere it’s mean the can be process^[1] !

Cheers.

edit: lemmy link to their community !simplex@lemmy.ml

jami’s good but it uses turn server to verify your name

So is it secure ? does that mean you rely on those server to be able to created an account ?

Though android only.

Anyway on Windows, Apple there is no sense to have a privacy apps if the OS it self pump everything it can.

And on Android it only make sense if you use an AOSP rom, or another but without the google crapware…

I think your mistaken… Can someone confirm ?

So I was eager to test Jami, but on Windows it require Windows 10… so no way --> https://itvision.altervista.org/why-windows-10-sucks.html

anyway I gave a quick try on a test machine (win10) But I got , not matter what I entered

Too bad because it had on paper, a lot of nice features…

On linux, too bad they don’t provide (yet) an AppImage…

no ! thanks ! look promising too.

I’ll try it and give my review… but is it require to make a “jami” account on their server !??